Discussion:
W2K SBS Cals won't re-install
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John Mc
2008-10-31 07:35:01 UTC
Permalink
Hi all,

Previous boss has a W2K SBS, plus 2 x 5 CAL packs.
Striped HDD failed, lost raid controller.

Installed new HDD on Pimary IDE controller.
None of the restore attempts have worked (using ERD, tape disaster recovery
etc)

I re-installed w2K SBS from scratch but when trying to install the CALs, I
get a message stating the installer could notfind the MAC address. Note that
the onlydifference to the hardware is the onboard raid is disabled and
removed the SCSI card for the tape drive (no longer used)

Is this an experience that any-one else has had?

I contacted support and they want to charge $390 for something that should
just work.

Advice appreciated.

Cheers all.
SuperGumby [SBS MVP]
2008-10-31 07:46:09 UTC
Permalink
Call MS back, but take the options for 'licensing' rather than 'support'.
Suggest to the person you speak to that you have a licensing problem.

If all else fails disable the License Logging Service until such time as MS
are willing to 'fix' the problem.
Post by John Mc
Hi all,
Previous boss has a W2K SBS, plus 2 x 5 CAL packs.
Striped HDD failed, lost raid controller.
Installed new HDD on Pimary IDE controller.
None of the restore attempts have worked (using ERD, tape disaster recovery
etc)
I re-installed w2K SBS from scratch but when trying to install the CALs, I
get a message stating the installer could notfind the MAC address. Note that
the onlydifference to the hardware is the onboard raid is disabled and
removed the SCSI card for the tape drive (no longer used)
Is this an experience that any-one else has had?
I contacted support and they want to charge $390 for something that should
just work.
Advice appreciated.
Cheers all.
Merv Porter [SBS-MVP]
2008-10-31 12:32:00 UTC
Permalink
How to View Information About Small Business Server Client Add Pack Diskette
Usage
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;247944

See what the setup program says it thinks is the Mac address for the CALs
(the CALs are tied to the SBS internal NIC MAC address when they are
installed).

You should have 2 NICs in your SBS 2000 server, one can be referred to as
"internal" (for SBS LAN use), the other "external" (attaches to your router
or broadband modem). When you reinstalled, did you use the same NIC for the
internal NIC as was previously used in your original install?

Also, the CALs must be either applied in the order they were installed or
you can simply use the last CAL pack that was installed. If you have two
floppies, try both to reinstall the CALs.

SBS2000: Add Pack disk cannot be applied because your network adapter is
inaccessible
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;300892
--
Merv Porter [SBS-MVP]
============================
Post by John Mc
Hi all,
Previous boss has a W2K SBS, plus 2 x 5 CAL packs.
Striped HDD failed, lost raid controller.
Installed new HDD on Pimary IDE controller.
None of the restore attempts have worked (using ERD, tape disaster recovery
etc)
I re-installed w2K SBS from scratch but when trying to install the CALs, I
get a message stating the installer could notfind the MAC address. Note that
the onlydifference to the hardware is the onboard raid is disabled and
removed the SCSI card for the tape drive (no longer used)
Is this an experience that any-one else has had?
I contacted support and they want to charge $390 for something that should
just work.
Advice appreciated.
Cheers all.
John Mc
2008-11-03 12:22:00 UTC
Permalink
Thanks for the quick reply Merv.

I have run a:\setup -v with a curious result. Every time I run it, I get a
different MAC address showing (the current machine's MAC). Weird.....

Ipconfig shows the correct MAC addresses (never changing)

When I Ping both interfaces, then arp -a (from a client machine) I always
get the same MAC addresses.

Tried in safe mode as well with the same results (changing curent MAC address)

Even ran it on my XP box and it still changes the MAC of the current
interface.

The other interesting thing is that the MAC used at install time does not
actually exist (there is no company with MAC address 387320)

Guess I'll need to ring MS unless there are other suggestions... Funny thing
is, I will have to ring the next time this happens as will cos the setup
application is generating random MAC addresses...

Cheers
Post by Merv Porter [SBS-MVP]
How to View Information About Small Business Server Client Add Pack Diskette
Usage
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;247944
See what the setup program says it thinks is the Mac address for the CALs
(the CALs are tied to the SBS internal NIC MAC address when they are
installed).
You should have 2 NICs in your SBS 2000 server, one can be referred to as
"internal" (for SBS LAN use), the other "external" (attaches to your router
or broadband modem). When you reinstalled, did you use the same NIC for the
internal NIC as was previously used in your original install?
Also, the CALs must be either applied in the order they were installed or
you can simply use the last CAL pack that was installed. If you have two
floppies, try both to reinstall the CALs.
SBS2000: Add Pack disk cannot be applied because your network adapter is
inaccessible
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;300892
--
Merv Porter [SBS-MVP]
============================
Post by John Mc
Hi all,
Previous boss has a W2K SBS, plus 2 x 5 CAL packs.
Striped HDD failed, lost raid controller.
Installed new HDD on Pimary IDE controller.
None of the restore attempts have worked (using ERD, tape disaster recovery
etc)
I re-installed w2K SBS from scratch but when trying to install the CALs, I
get a message stating the installer could notfind the MAC address. Note that
the onlydifference to the hardware is the onboard raid is disabled and
removed the SCSI card for the tape drive (no longer used)
Is this an experience that any-one else has had?
I contacted support and they want to charge $390 for something that should
just work.
Advice appreciated.
Cheers all.
Michael Jenkin [SBS-MVP]
2008-11-05 23:22:25 UTC
Permalink
Is it possible in the Nic driver or settings that someone has applied an
alternative mac address ?

ipconfig would see that however, hardware might see the real address

.. just curious
Post by John Mc
Thanks for the quick reply Merv.
I have run a:\setup -v with a curious result. Every time I run it, I get a
different MAC address showing (the current machine's MAC). Weird.....
Ipconfig shows the correct MAC addresses (never changing)
When I Ping both interfaces, then arp -a (from a client machine) I always
get the same MAC addresses.
Tried in safe mode as well with the same results (changing curent MAC address)
Even ran it on my XP box and it still changes the MAC of the current
interface.
The other interesting thing is that the MAC used at install time does not
actually exist (there is no company with MAC address 387320)
Guess I'll need to ring MS unless there are other suggestions... Funny thing
is, I will have to ring the next time this happens as will cos the setup
application is generating random MAC addresses...
Cheers
Post by Merv Porter [SBS-MVP]
How to View Information About Small Business Server Client Add Pack Diskette
Usage
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;247944
See what the setup program says it thinks is the Mac address for the CALs
(the CALs are tied to the SBS internal NIC MAC address when they are
installed).
You should have 2 NICs in your SBS 2000 server, one can be referred to as
"internal" (for SBS LAN use), the other "external" (attaches to your router
or broadband modem). When you reinstalled, did you use the same NIC for the
internal NIC as was previously used in your original install?
Also, the CALs must be either applied in the order they were installed or
you can simply use the last CAL pack that was installed. If you have two
floppies, try both to reinstall the CALs.
SBS2000: Add Pack disk cannot be applied because your network adapter is
inaccessible
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;300892
--
Merv Porter [SBS-MVP]
============================
Post by John Mc
Hi all,
Previous boss has a W2K SBS, plus 2 x 5 CAL packs.
Striped HDD failed, lost raid controller.
Installed new HDD on Pimary IDE controller.
None of the restore attempts have worked (using ERD, tape disaster recovery
etc)
I re-installed w2K SBS from scratch but when trying to install the CALs, I
get a message stating the installer could notfind the MAC address. Note that
the onlydifference to the hardware is the onboard raid is disabled and
removed the SCSI card for the tape drive (no longer used)
Is this an experience that any-one else has had?
I contacted support and they want to charge $390 for something that should
just work.
Advice appreciated.
Cheers all.
--
Michael J. Jenkin MVP - SBS, MCP, Small Business Specialist, Senior
Systems Engineer
Visit http://www.mickyj.com
John Mc
2008-11-06 12:45:01 UTC
Permalink
Hi Michael,

I administered the server until I performed the final data archive, then I
turned it off about three years ago (in a few weeks time actually)

Server hardly missed a beat in the time in use.

Old Boss has just opened a new office so I initially copied all business
data from it which was about threemonths ago, when one HDD in a striped array
went faulty and took out the raid array. (Its an Intel Server Board which
Idon't think can have the mac addresses changed.)

I didn't do the original install though, the boss paid for it to be loaded
by a company. I just took over support after 15 minutes training.

The only thing I did after the drive failure was replace the HDDs and raid
card. Couldn't restore as stated previously, so thought a total reload was in
order, but without the raid and tape drive (HDD on standard IDE, one system
drive, a data partition and a second drive to backup to overnight, then a
copy to an external drive during the day.)
This was when the CALs wouldn't load, and thanks to help from other
communiity members I have discovered this problem where the CAL setup
progrram reports a fictitious MAC every time, which is probably where the
dodgy MAC came from.

Incidentally, if you run setup -v with the disk in any 2k or XP box, it will
report the details and in my desktop it still gave a different MAC address
every time.

Unfortunately the server guys where I work are unable to help as we have a
replace the server antotal reload policy (company has about 2000 servers in
about 100 locations hence their reasoning.)

I think I will need to place a call to MS although there is a MS technical
guru giving a pesentation about W2k8 sbs in about three weeks time so I might
ambush him about it.

I will be installing the box with the 5 cals as outlook web doesn't consume
CALS and there are only two people in the office at the moment, and only one
or two might VPN in to do some file work. Gives me time to sort out the
problem.

Kind regards,

John
Post by Michael Jenkin [SBS-MVP]
Is it possible in the Nic driver or settings that someone has applied an
alternative mac address ?
ipconfig would see that however, hardware might see the real address
... just curious
Post by John Mc
Thanks for the quick reply Merv.
I have run a:\setup -v with a curious result. Every time I run it, I get a
different MAC address showing (the current machine's MAC). Weird.....
Ipconfig shows the correct MAC addresses (never changing)
When I Ping both interfaces, then arp -a (from a client machine) I always
get the same MAC addresses.
Tried in safe mode as well with the same results (changing curent MAC address)
Even ran it on my XP box and it still changes the MAC of the current
interface.
The other interesting thing is that the MAC used at install time does not
actually exist (there is no company with MAC address 387320)
Guess I'll need to ring MS unless there are other suggestions... Funny thing
is, I will have to ring the next time this happens as will cos the setup
application is generating random MAC addresses...
Cheers
Post by Merv Porter [SBS-MVP]
How to View Information About Small Business Server Client Add Pack Diskette
Usage
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;247944
See what the setup program says it thinks is the Mac address for the CALs
(the CALs are tied to the SBS internal NIC MAC address when they are
installed).
You should have 2 NICs in your SBS 2000 server, one can be referred to as
"internal" (for SBS LAN use), the other "external" (attaches to your router
or broadband modem). When you reinstalled, did you use the same NIC for the
internal NIC as was previously used in your original install?
Also, the CALs must be either applied in the order they were installed or
you can simply use the last CAL pack that was installed. If you have two
floppies, try both to reinstall the CALs.
SBS2000: Add Pack disk cannot be applied because your network adapter is
inaccessible
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;300892
--
Merv Porter [SBS-MVP]
============================
Post by John Mc
Hi all,
Previous boss has a W2K SBS, plus 2 x 5 CAL packs.
Striped HDD failed, lost raid controller.
Installed new HDD on Pimary IDE controller.
None of the restore attempts have worked (using ERD, tape disaster recovery
etc)
I re-installed w2K SBS from scratch but when trying to install the CALs, I
get a message stating the installer could notfind the MAC address. Note that
the onlydifference to the hardware is the onboard raid is disabled and
removed the SCSI card for the tape drive (no longer used)
Is this an experience that any-one else has had?
I contacted support and they want to charge $390 for something that should
just work.
Advice appreciated.
Cheers all.
--
Michael J. Jenkin MVP - SBS, MCP, Small Business Specialist, Senior
Systems Engineer
Visit http://www.mickyj.com
b***@gmail.com
2008-11-20 15:36:11 UTC
Permalink
John,

It's been a long time since a reinstall, but I don't remember it being
a MAC issue. I do recall that I needed to renew the licenses with a
call to MS. The tricky part was when I called I reported the numbers
to the agent and she gave me the new codes. Well then I restarted the
install process and the new codes didn't work. I call back and find
out the every time you start the install process, the codes you report
to MS change, as you discovered. You need to get the codes from MS
during your install to make them work.

This is my recollection from about 5 yrs ago, so the details are a
little shaky, but I'm pretty sure about the substance.

Pat
Post by John Mc
Hi Michael,
I administered the server until I performed the final data archive, then I
turned it off about three years ago (in a few weeks time actually)
Server hardly missed a beat in the time in use.
Old Boss has just opened a new office so I initially copied all business
data from it which was about threemonths ago, when one HDD in a striped array
went faulty and took out the raid array. (Its an Intel Server Board which
Idon't think can have the mac addresses changed.)
I didn't do the original install though, the boss paid for it to be loaded
by a company. I just took over support after 15 minutes training.
The only thing I did after the drive failure was replace the HDDs and raid
card. Couldn't restore as stated previously, so thought a total reload was in
order, but without the raid and tape drive (HDD on standard IDE, one system
drive, a data partition and a second drive to backup to overnight, then a
copy to an external drive during the day.)
This was when the CALs wouldn't load, and thanks to help from other
communiity members I have discovered this problem where the CAL setup
progrram reports a fictitious MAC every time, which is probably where the
dodgy MAC came from.
Incidentally, if you run setup -v with the disk in any 2k or XP box, it will
report the details and in my desktop it still gave a different MAC address
every time.
Unfortunately the server guys where I work are unable to help as we have a
replace the server antotal reload policy (company has about 2000 servers in
about 100 locations hence their reasoning.)
I think I will need to place a call to MS although there is a MS technical
guru giving a pesentation about W2k8 sbs in about three weeks time so I might
ambush him about it.
I will be installing the box with the 5 cals as outlook web doesn't consume
CALS and there are only two people in the office at the moment, and only one
or two might VPN in to do some file work. Gives me time to sort out the
problem.
Kind regards,
John
Post by Michael Jenkin [SBS-MVP]
Is it possible in the Nic driver or settings that someone has applied an
alternative mac address ?
ipconfig would see that however, hardware might see the real address
... just curious
Post by John Mc
Thanks for the quick reply Merv.
I have run a:\setup -v with a curious result. Every time I run it, I get a
different MAC address showing (the current machine's MAC). Weird.....
Ipconfig shows the correct MAC addresses (never changing)
When I Ping both interfaces, then arp -a (from a client machine) I always
get the same MAC addresses.
Tried in safe mode as well with the same results (changing curent MAC address)
Even ran it on my XP box and it still changes the MAC of the current
interface.
The other interesting thing is that the MAC used at install time does not
actually exist (there is no company with MAC address 387320)
Guess I'll need to ring MS unless there are other suggestions... Funny thing
is, I will have to ring the next time this happens as will cos the setup
application is generating random MAC addresses...
Cheers
Post by Merv Porter [SBS-MVP]
How to View Information About Small Business Server Client Add Pack Diskette
Usage
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;247944
See what the setup program says it thinks is the Mac address for the CALs
(the CALs are tied to the SBS internal NIC MAC address when they are
installed).
You should have 2 NICs in your SBS 2000 server, one can be referred to as
"internal" (for SBS LAN use), the other "external" (attaches to your router
or broadband modem).  When you reinstalled, did you use the same NIC for the
internal NIC as was previously used in your original install?
Also, the CALs must be either applied in the order they were installed or
you can simply use the last CAL pack that was installed.  If you have two
floppies, try both to reinstall the CALs.
SBS2000: Add Pack disk cannot be applied because your network adapter is
inaccessible
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;300892
--
Merv  Porter   [SBS-MVP]
============================
Post by John Mc
Hi all,
Previous boss has a W2K SBS, plus 2 x 5 CAL packs.
Striped HDD failed, lost raid controller.
Installed new HDD on Pimary IDE controller.
None of the restore attempts have worked (using ERD, tape disaster recovery
etc)
I re-installed w2K SBS from scratch but when trying to install the CALs, I
get a message stating the installer could notfind the MAC address. Note
that
the onlydifference to the hardware is the onboard raid is disabled and
removed the SCSI card for the tape drive (no longer used)
Is this an experience that any-one else has had?
I contacted support and they want to charge $390 for something that should
just work.
Advice appreciated.
Cheers all.
--
Michael J. Jenkin MVP - SBS, MCP, Small Business Specialist, Senior
Systems Engineer
Visithttp://www.mickyj.com
Michael Jenkin [SBS-MVP]
2008-11-30 23:10:26 UTC
Permalink
This all sounds vaguely familiar
Post by b***@gmail.com
John,
It's been a long time since a reinstall, but I don't remember it being
a MAC issue. I do recall that I needed to renew the licenses with a
call to MS. The tricky part was when I called I reported the numbers
to the agent and she gave me the new codes. Well then I restarted the
install process and the new codes didn't work. I call back and find
out the every time you start the install process, the codes you report
to MS change, as you discovered. You need to get the codes from MS
during your install to make them work.
This is my recollection from about 5 yrs ago, so the details are a
little shaky, but I'm pretty sure about the substance.
Pat
Post by John Mc
Hi Michael,
I administered the server until I performed the final data archive, then I
turned it off about three years ago (in a few weeks time actually)
Server hardly missed a beat in the time in use.
Old Boss has just opened a new office so I initially copied all business
data from it which was about threemonths ago, when one HDD in a striped array
went faulty and took out the raid array. (Its an Intel Server Board which
Idon't think can have the mac addresses changed.)
I didn't do the original install though, the boss paid for it to be loaded
by a company. I just took over support after 15 minutes training.
The only thing I did after the drive failure was replace the HDDs and raid
card. Couldn't restore as stated previously, so thought a total reload was in
order, but without the raid and tape drive (HDD on standard IDE, one system
drive, a data partition and a second drive to backup to overnight, then a
copy to an external drive during the day.)
This was when the CALs wouldn't load, and thanks to help from other
communiity members I have discovered this problem where the CAL setup
progrram reports a fictitious MAC every time, which is probably where the
dodgy MAC came from.
Incidentally, if you run setup -v with the disk in any 2k or XP box, it will
report the details and in my desktop it still gave a different MAC address
every time.
Unfortunately the server guys where I work are unable to help as we have a
replace the server antotal reload policy (company has about 2000 servers in
about 100 locations hence their reasoning.)
I think I will need to place a call to MS although there is a MS technical
guru giving a pesentation about W2k8 sbs in about three weeks time so I might
ambush him about it.
I will be installing the box with the 5 cals as outlook web doesn't consume
CALS and there are only two people in the office at the moment, and only one
or two might VPN in to do some file work. Gives me time to sort out the
problem.
Kind regards,
John
Post by Michael Jenkin [SBS-MVP]
Is it possible in the Nic driver or settings that someone has applied an
alternative mac address ?
ipconfig would see that however, hardware might see the real address
... just curious
Post by John Mc
Thanks for the quick reply Merv.
I have run a:\setup -v with a curious result. Every time I run it, I get a
different MAC address showing (the current machine's MAC). Weird.....
Ipconfig shows the correct MAC addresses (never changing)
When I Ping both interfaces, then arp -a (from a client machine) I always
get the same MAC addresses.
Tried in safe mode as well with the same results (changing curent MAC address)
Even ran it on my XP box and it still changes the MAC of the current
interface.
The other interesting thing is that the MAC used at install time does not
actually exist (there is no company with MAC address 387320)
Guess I'll need to ring MS unless there are other suggestions... Funny thing
is, I will have to ring the next time this happens as will cos the setup
application is generating random MAC addresses...
Cheers
Post by Merv Porter [SBS-MVP]
How to View Information About Small Business Server Client Add Pack Diskette
Usage
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;247944
See what the setup program says it thinks is the Mac address for the CALs
(the CALs are tied to the SBS internal NIC MAC address when they are
installed).
You should have 2 NICs in your SBS 2000 server, one can be referred to as
"internal" (for SBS LAN use), the other "external" (attaches to your router
or broadband modem). When you reinstalled, did you use the same NIC for the
internal NIC as was previously used in your original install?
Also, the CALs must be either applied in the order they were installed or
you can simply use the last CAL pack that was installed. If you have two
floppies, try both to reinstall the CALs.
SBS2000: Add Pack disk cannot be applied because your network adapter is
inaccessible
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;300892
--
Merv Porter [SBS-MVP]
============================
Post by John Mc
Hi all,
Previous boss has a W2K SBS, plus 2 x 5 CAL packs.
Striped HDD failed, lost raid controller.
Installed new HDD on Pimary IDE controller.
None of the restore attempts have worked (using ERD, tape disaster
recovery
etc)
I re-installed w2K SBS from scratch but when trying to install the CALs, I
get a message stating the installer could notfind the MAC address.. Note
that
the onlydifference to the hardware is the onboard raid is disabled and
removed the SCSI card for the tape drive (no longer used)
Is this an experience that any-one else has had?
I contacted support and they want to charge $390 for something that should
just work.
Advice appreciated.
Cheers all.
--
Michael J. Jenkin MVP - SBS, MCP, Small Business Specialist, Senior
Systems Engineer
Visithttp://www.mickyj.com
--
Michael J. Jenkin MVP - SBS, MCP, Small Business Specialist, Senior
Systems Engineer
Visit http://www.mickyj.com
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